Of all of Wilcoxs statements, none drew more attention and criticism than his remarks about why members shouldnt focus on the fact Black males didnt get the priesthood until 1978, when the prohibition was lifted. To see our price, add these items to your cart. We dont share your credit card details with third-party sellers, and we dont sell your information to others. Other plans? As to civil rights having ties to communism and socialism. At CSUPueblo, he has won several university-wide awards, including the Provosts Award for Excellence in Teaching, the Students Choice Award, and the Provosts Award for Scholarly and Creative Activity. He is the author of numerous books and articles, including The Mormon Church and Blacks: A Documentary History (Univ. That was the year I joined the Church and became a member of the JBS. He just wasnt interested in passing on his diary even if he had one. Im just an uneducated dummy who has observed this happening throughout my life .I was raised in an ultra conservative home, we prayed for our prophet we prayed for carter we prayed equally for Reagan now I pray for everyone. : Brown: Mormonisms Progressive Apostle (Signature Books). (Part 2 of 7), Swedish Rescue & Gospel Topics Essays (Part 1 of 7), Dr. Matthew Harris Talks About Temple & Priesthood Ban, Ezra Taft Benson on Communism, Bircherism, Civil Rights, Race & Religion Struggles at BYU 1965-1985, LDS Gospel Topics Series: A Scholarly Engagement, The Mormon Church & Blacks: A Documentary History. I remember in HS thinking that I would have a terrible time supporting ETB if he were to ever ascend to the presidency. Ezra Taft Benson is perhaps the most controversial apostle-president in the history of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. WebThe Gospel According toSt Matthew. Ive visited my dads grave but I am not able to determine if my father turned over in his grave. In life and in death, fame and glory eluded Zebulon Montgomery Pike (17791813). His teachings inspired Mormon extremists to stockpile weapons, predict the end of the world, and commit acts of violence against their government. Will: Anyway, Sumner Howard. In this episode we will provide an Listen to 1365: The LDS Gospel Topics Essays - A History by Dr. Matt Harris by Mormon Stories - LDS instantly on your tablet, phone But a lot of this stuff that Ive seenIve been privileged to see lots of restricted material, I should say thisand thats a different conversation for maybe another day, but Ive seen lots of restricted diaries and journals. As Lenin said, The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves. 1:36:10 Who are the scholars writing the first drafts? WebIn 2014 the LDS Church released an essay entitled "Race and the Priesthood" as part of its Gospel Topics Essays Initiative. He is currently at work on three book-length manuscripts: The Long Awaited Day: Blacks, Mormons, and the Lifting of the Priesthood and Temple Ban, 1945-2018; J. Reuben Clark and the Making of Modern Mormonism (Univ. Of course white privileged capitalists dont see that as a solution, cause then the problem is them and not black people. Eisenhower, admirable diplomat that he was, and notwithstanding his having won the Korean war, may never completely have overcome his association with FDR. He also attached copies of some of the pictures and articles. David O. McKay, his papersyou mentioned Greg Prince a minute ago wrote a great biography on David O. McKaymuch of that work was based upon papers that David O. McKays secretary, Clare Middlemiss, had kept over a period of several years, and these papers had, after President McKay died in 1970, Middlemiss took dozens and dozens of these volumes of these journals that she had kept and transcribedthere are phone conversations in there; its really great stuff if youre a scholarand they were in her basement for a number of years and as Greg Prince has talked about that he got ahold of these materials and was able to construct his book along those lines. As a people the slander of Romney by Ried set us back a very long way ,yet we would choose Nancy and fienstien who have bankrupted California and handed that state to a lawless and mis directed majority .this interview was particularly disturbing in reference to the condemning of everything and everyone who is not squarely on the left . Full content visible, double tap to read brief content. Mixed responses after the research is presented to LDS headquarters 1 Over the previous 14 years, he had acquired 320 acres of Matthew L. Harris is the author of numerous books and articles, including Watchman on the Tower: Ezra Taft Benson and the Making of the Mormon Right (Univ. Unfortunately MLK did have association with Communists. Race, Priesthood, & Randy Bott (Part 6 of 7), Critiquing Polygamy Essays & Sources (Part 3 of 7), Are Gospel Essays Hidden or Public? 1:54:30 Church between a rock and a hard place when publishing. Matthew Harris, a historian at Colorado State University-Pueblo and author of a forthcoming book on Black Latter-day Saints since World War II, also pointed to Yes, there was the mothers must stay at home nonsense but that was no more offensive than the other nonsense spewed by his fellow apostles. 2:15:52 Chosen release strategy might be very wise after all Very engaging Dr Dehlin and Dr. Harris. We have two words that in modern society seem to be linked as if the first word has never and currently is not possible to exist. This book sheds extra light on the gospel topics essays. Its not difficult as Dr. Harris said. It would also be the decent thing to do. That does not turn Matt Harriss historical falsehoods and error about other topics into truths. WebEmail: ldsdiscussions@gmail.com Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord Show Notes: Related LDS Discussions Episodes 1651: Priesthood Restoration w/ LDS Discussions 18 1663: Race & Mormon Scripture Some of the more hardline African Americans organizations simply thought that they were citizens with all the obligations, including going off to war, without the benefits. Matthew L. Harris is professor of history at Colorado State University-Pueblo. Elder Benson [to whom I affectionally call The Architect ] had HIS community and Sunstone has theirs. of Illinois Press, 2019), Watchman on the Tower: Ezra Taft Benson and the Making of the Mormon Right (Univ. Topics include: how Bensons views influenced his actions as Secretary of Agriculture in the Eisenhower Administration; his dedication to the conservative movement, from alliances with Barry Goldwater and the John Birch Society to his condemnation of the civil rights movement as a communist front; how his concept of the principal of free agency became central to Mormon theology; his advocacy of traditional gender roles as a counterbalance to liberalism; and the events and implications of Bensons term as Church president. The polygamy essay of Utah Press, 2019) and (with Newell G. Bringhurst) The Mormon Church and its Gospel Topics Essays: The Scholarly Community Responds (Univ. I read about his support of Joseph McCarthy and all that garbage about communism. The first time I heard of members saying the Essays cant be real (hacked) or that the First Presidency didnt approve them made guessing the process easy. He received a BA and MA in history from Brigham Young University Rick holds a Master of Statistics Degree from the University of Utah. Growing up, he said, his kids would play church the same way a child might play school or house. Publisher Can you just tell listeners who are not LDS, why in the world is the Church not giving you access to Elder Bensons full journalnot just up until a certain pointand then do you think Im crazy or that I have bad information or Ted Lyon was lying to me or misinformed when he told me that the Church has informed current apostles no longer to keep journals? [Harris] But anyway, and the other thing that Ill share is, and Ive heard this from a couple of people, that at the highest eschelons of leadership when they are called into the Twelve they sign some documentation where they do they will turn their papers over to the Church when the apostle dies. Its too bad when Mormonism and the priesthood was on full display Harry justified lying while mitt could not defend himself because of his shame for the little bit of conservatism he espoused . The contributors reflect a variety of faith traditions, including the LDS Church, Community of Christ, Catholic, and Evangelical Christian. Focusing on essays He joined the CSU-Pueblo History Department in 2005 and was Chair of the Department from 2010-13 and Director of Graduate Studies in History from 2009-16. The Salt Lake Tribune, Inc. is a 501(c)(3) public charity and contributions are tax WebId like to introduce Dr. Matt Harris in our next conversation. of Utah Press, 2019). Thank you. I havent listened to nor contributed to Mormon Stories for a few years because I start to own the hurt of all the great and brave people who share their stories. And I used to think thats so cute, he said. 3:06:12 Matts book by Signature books Naming what was insensitive and inaccurate about Wilcoxs remarks is important, scholars said, but for real change, there needs to be a shift in the wider conversation around issues of race, gender and respecting other faiths. Loved this episode. According to Kline, statements like these suggest women are not ordained because they must have some essential noble quality that men are lacking. And they are everywhere in Latter-day Saint rhetoric. I remember accepting the premise that a prophet led the church and, therefore, what the prophet said, what the apostles said, what ETB said was what God would say. The Church does exactly that with their internal operational policies. Dr. Matthew Harris' focus is on religion and the law, church, and state and Mormon Studies. This interview with Matt was great. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A . 00:00 00:00 Download MP3 Is it a definitive repudiation of racism? In one stake, our president asked me to present a filmstrip program by ETB called Man. but Christs crusifiction was done out of fear . Instant streaming of thousands of movies and TV episodes with Prime Video, A Kindle book to borrow for free each month - with no due dates, Listen to over 2 million songs and hundreds of playlists, Unlimited photo storage with anywhere access. Sorry, there was a problem loading this page. Just the tip of the iceberg of historical errors, misleading claims, and false information from Harris in his distorted and unbalanced narrative presented to you and listeners. Their strategy Bring your club to Amazon Book Clubs, start a new book club and invite your friends to join, or find a club thats right for you for free. Dr. King usually took the attitude of getting help from anybody that could help his plight. Watchman on the Tower: Ezra Taft Benson and the Making of the Mormon Right, The LDS Gospel Topics Series: A Scholarly Engagement, The Mormon Church and Blacks: A Documentary History, Thunder on the Right: Ezra Taft Benson in Mormonism and Politics, Zebulon Pike, Thomas Jefferson, and the Opening of the American West, The Founding Fathers and the Debate over Religion in Revolutionary America: A History in Documents. I had a Bircher roommate in college, he would always brag that Reed Benson and ET Benson supported his cause. , which is used in college classrooms throughout the United States. Let me share a quick story and then a thought. His university and every other complex organization keeps track of, and indicates changes, of each policy. Mr Harris find something good to say about any conservative and publish it go on I dare you . Church leaders, including Wilcox, need to be explicit in their apology regarding racist statements, the ban and other teachings, Bradshaw said. 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And when Apostle Packer, Boyd K. Packer learned about this, he said something like they sold their souls for a mess of pottage. And he was upset, Elder Packer was upset that the Smith children didnt donate their fathers papersthis was a church president, mind you, in the 1940sthey didnt give the papers to the Church archivist, and so they sold them to the University of Utah with the stipulation that they would be open to scholars like me and others, and so they didnt like that. 1:27:50 How the essays got created. The Gay Mormon Reformation, on Mormon Stories The Mormon Influences on Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow, on Mormon Stories Ezra Taft Benson and the Making of the Mormon Right, with Matt Harris on Mormon Stories Part 1 Part 2 The LDS Churchs Coverup of Sterling Van Wagenens Sexual Abuse of Sean Escobar, on Today, Jeremy, Etzio, Mateo and Elanni [ my American family] will repeat the work of The Architect in their youth and will believe whatever script is taught to them. it paves the way for a despot like Adolph. 44:53 Timeline of publishing the research New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The analysis utilizes never-before-seen documents from the Quorum of the Twelve and First Presidency. Rick Bennett is the friendly, independent historian at the heart of Gospel Tangents LDS Podcast: The Best Source for Mormon History, Science, and Theology. Many in the organized labor movement benefitted from the lessons taught by the Communist Party. Then the president rose and said that he had heard the voice of the lord and then the blacks could get the priesthood. The days of Harry and mitt are past . The LDS Gospel Topics Series: A Scholarly Engagement. During his tenure at CSU-Pueblo, he has won several university-wide awards, including the Provosts Award for Excellence in Teaching, the Students Choice Award and the Provosts Award for Scholarly and Creative Activity. Together the essays assess Pikes accomplishments and shortcomings as an explorer, soldier, empire builder, and family man. Oaks, the man next in line to lead the church, was letting everyone know that, as she put it, the ban was a God thing and not just a racism thing., She was devastated. And these communities come in all colors. In contrast, Young said Wilcoxs comments diverged from the line adopted by the leaders of the church in recent decades. Important: Your credit card will NOT be charged when you start your free trial or if you cancel during the trial period. My father always taught me that God would never allow Ezra Taft Benson to become the president of the Church. The next day, BYU issued a statement, saying the church-owned Provo school was deeply concerned with Wilcoxs speech and welcoming his sincere apology.. I felt like Id been hit by a truck., A convert, Bradshaw said had she known before her 2014 baptism that this belief still held sway, she would have been a lot less likely to have joined.. I did manage to read the entire naked communist by Skousen, and was rather disappointed in how lame it was, a rambling, poorly written nothing burger. Dr. Matt Harris is a specialist in US history with a particular focus in religion and the law, church and state, American religious history, civil rights, and Mormon Studies. What About Church Theology in the Now, who is Jesus and His relationship with God the Father and God the Holy Spirit, as God the Son or the Word, as described in Gospel of John, The first Vision was it a Lie or an exageration?/. its absolutely incredible how Important the l d s people feel their leaders are ,and yet the most powerful Mormon political figure ever was Harry Reid .a person who single handedly unbuttoned the other most powerful Mormon political person mitt Romney. I mean, he writes his wife, and this is in his journal, he says, Im going to paraphrase, its in the book the exact quote, but he says, he said, if I wasnt here I couldnt believe that this is happening, I just couldnt believe it, but Im here and I see it and its so profoundly moving and the suffering that these people are going through. 2:44:18 Overarching questions about the Essays The year 1978 marked a watershed year in the history of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as it lifted a 126-year ban on ordaining black males for the priesthood. Historians Matthew Harris and Thomas Kidd offer an authoritative examination of the essential documents needed to understand this debate. Also, he did not want the LDS Church associated with any of these radical groups. So, really what it is, is, the Church doesnt want the papers of contemporary Apostles to be available to scholars. 20:22 Elder Marlin Jensen telling answers to questions are underway. Some of these groups presented Elder Benson awards and certificates and would have pictures and articles about him on their printed media. 06:43 Events that lead to the release of the Essays Dr. Matt Harris is a specialist in US history with a particular focus in religion and the law, church and state, American religious history, civil rights, and Mormon Studies. This thread is archived . In 2013, the church published an essay, Race and the Priesthood, outlining this brief period of ordination, as well as the racist attitudes of many Americans in 1852, when Young, the second church president, announced a policy restricting Black men from ordination. Americans forget [Greg Ransom excluded] somehow conveniently that there was a real and at some point in time strong Communist Party in the US. Dr. Newell Bringhurst and Dr. Matt Harris, The LDS Church began publishing the LDS Gospel topics essays in 2013, but are they hidden or public? , ISBN-13 Klines suggestion falls in line with senior apostle M. Russell Ballards 2016 instruction to employees, like Wilcox, of the Church Educational System. Please try again. But the revelation that then Elder Benson seriously pursuing the idea of running on a ticket with Strom Thurmond or George Wallace in the 1960s or 1970s really bothers me. The Mormon Church and Blacks presents thirty official or authoritative Church statements on the status of African Americans in the Mormon Church. Dont. He received a B.A. You know, if youre getting into sacred temple rituals, I dont think that should be open; people have a right to believe in sacred ordinances and rituals and not have them written about and talked about. If you're happy with Amazon Prime, do nothing. President Oaks was brought into the Quorum in large part for his legal experience and I suspect the same is true of Elder Cook. Download the free Kindle app and start reading Kindle books instantly on your smartphone, tablet, or computer - no Kindle device required. These recommendations are currently being discussed and actively reviewed by the faculty and leadership of religious education, she said, who want every student to feel valued and included in their classes.. The Jewish Community helped the African American Community in their effort to get the Civil Rights amendments on board, teaching organization skills and eventually with bodies on the line . He won the Vera Jean and J. Talmage Jones Award from the Mormon History Association in 2014. But I have attended numerous of their meetings and read the history of John Birch and what the Chinese communists did to him. : 2:20:24 Are there essays that are higher quality than others? By 1827, Martin Harris had built a comfortable life for himself in Palmyra, New York. [Harris] Unfortunately they are not. Anyway, when they decided to publish the Joseph Smith Papers which is going to be 24 volumes when its all said and done, and also when they allowed people to see the Brigham Young Papers. Thank you, Dr. Harris, for your great scholarship on this very interesting subject to me. Were moving on to a critique of the Race and Priesthood essay on the LDS Church website. This item can be returned in its original condition for a full refund or replacement within 30 days of receipt. As a hard-core atheist I now attribute that to a highly-developed self-preservation gene that GAs have! And this may well have been what Benson and the John Birchers were feeding upon. Mr Harris makes some great points but he is hiding behind the left . Right-Wing Extremist Groups. WebMatthew L. Harris is the author of numerous books and articles, including Watchman on the Tower: Ezra Taft Benson and the Making of the Mormon Right (Univ. His historical research is first rate. Christ is born of MaryShe conceives by the power of the Holy GhostOur Lord is named Jesus. B. Haws, and Andrea G. Radke-Moss. Matthews new book can be purchased here. Organizations requiring the publication of policies and procedures (his own university included), which is nearly any organization subject to legal scrutiny or who need internal continuity and clarity, publish these documents. For nearly fifty years he delivered impassioned sermons in Utah and elsewhere, mixing religion with ultraconservative right-wing political views and conspiracy theories. The texts included in this volume writings and speeches from both well-known and obscure early American thinkers show that religion played a prominent yet fractious role in the era of the American Revolution. It wasnt until later that Smiths immediate successor, Brigham Young, put in place the prohibition. Resources, research, and thoughts related to the truth-claims, teachings, and culture of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (aka the Mormon Church). The First Presidency rebuked him, his fellow apostles wanted him disciplined, and grassroots Mormons called for his removal from the Quorum of the Twelve. The documents ALWAYS include among several items that are pertinent to the Essays: 1) Who owns the documents (The LDS Church); 2) Approval (The First Presidency); 3) Date of approval or date of origin or of the latest iteration. This essay is contained within the newly released book entitled "The LDS Gospel Topics Series: A Scholarly Engagement" published by Signature Books (edited by Matt Harris and Newell G. Bringhurst). Please try again. I was a chapter leader and had all the books of the library in my home in SE Idaho.. From then on wherever I lived I was either a JBS member or just a radical. Former UCLA lecturer threatened to 'hunt' female professor - 2:03:12 Who wants to talk about polygamy? Matt Harris on LDS transparency. When people donate, when General Authorities donate, their papers they generally put stipulations, like Spencer W. Kimballs papers were supposed to be open to researchthat was the stipulation that his son Ed, the custodian of these papers, when his father died in 1985, Ed Kimball inherited the papers and he made it very clear to the archivist that they are supposed to be open to research, and if you need to redact some sensitive things from his diaries whether its temple or finances or something of the sort, but they need to be open. I do not know if this is how Benson was, but it is a possibility for how you can be pro Israel and anti-Semitic.