Before the instrument may be recorded, the Register of Deeds must collect the tax due and mark the instrument to indicate that the tax has been paid and the amount of the tax paid. I am just trying to understand all costs and logistics involved. Comment by I am trying to find out who is responsible for a fence but nothing is showing on the title plan - just the boundary of the property. Does the land Registry posted on We have ordered but was unsure how soon we were likely to receive. AdamH Does that mean we have to send that for the title plan with that form also then? A document such as a transfer from the developer to the first house owner will obviously give definitive information as to ownership and the age of the house. Jessica 08 October 2018. Comment by We strive to serve you with professionalism and compassion, realizing this may be your first experience in dealing with this office. The term 'the deeds' is in my experience associated with how title or ownership was proven before registration, namely you had a pile of deeds, inc a lease in this case, and they were used to prove your ownership. The post code covers a number of properties but nothing leaps out to refer to a transfer to you. Difficult to say as there are number of reasons why we may not be in a position to process the discharge immediately. Online Deed Search. Comment by posted on If you are a registered owner with absolute title and in physical possession of the property, you are in a very secure position. posted on The register and title plan then become the 'title deeds' hence Santander's final comment. I agree with you that original deeds (or certified copies) are preferable in this circumstance. Have a question about missing deeds and property not registered with land registry. posted on https://help.landregistry.gov.uk/app/contactus_general, Comment by 14 November 2019. posted on posted on posted on 17 February 2020, Michele - form OC1 is used to check the register/title plan. 26 March 2018, LeslieM - form OC2 is used to apply for a copy of the lease and you will need to confirm that it is a lease and it's date and title number as part of the form in panel 7. Julia Baker Lisa Dakin We always thought our property was registered with the Land Registry - and have just paid 6 to reassure ourselves and see the extract entry online and print a copy off - but would like to know if what we are looking at is "electronically registered", and if so negates the need for us to do anything else in order for probate to be done when we die. Comment by Zaeem posted on posted on DISCLAIMER: By North Carolina law, this office cannot prepare or assist with the preparation of legal documents. Martyn Souch posted on My Uncle died 3 years ago and his property, which has been in the family since 1836, was unregistered with the Land Registry. We still have 8 years remaining on our mortgage. My dad built his own home in 1954. The deeds were so interesting, they were like a big scroll with wax seals and the names of all the owners dating from wene the house was first built in 1865 and the names were all related until I bought it. I would like to do a second search of my own but am not sure how to go about it. they wrote me letter on 15th april 2019 , they did not make it clear so I waited. Comment by 07 September 2018. Certified Documents in 3 Simple Steps. (We need a copy of the original docs because HSBC have helpfully 'lost' the original deeds - which seems to be becoming quite a common phenomenon!). Li ), Comment by 31 July 2018. 01 May 2018. posted on I have the deed ref number from the building society submitted that and paid for title registry and title plan.they must have rec email as its come through again today. 04 June 2019, John - the register and title plan are available online. And if I should do it now, is it form OC1 or OC2 that I need? 12 October 2020. 20 February 2018. Is it possible to retrieve a copy of the CH1 that the lender registered with yourselves/, Comment by they were left to me by my ancestors in 1974, Comment by Comment by Thank you that would be greatly appreciated. The freeholder would need to be included. I've been reading about various conveyancing matters as a result One of the things I've read about is the Priority Search but I'm a bit confused as to what this is and wondered if you are able to explain? AdamH Upon sale, the buyer's solicitor felt that the separate entrance stairs were not included as part of the footprint on the deed and held over 10K in escrow to solve the problem. Helen On the next sale the original owner may have handed over those original deeds/documents but it is equally possible that they did not. 22 July 2020, Cfd - it the entry refers to restrictive covenants and the deed as filed then that some and you can apply by post for a copy of the filed deed https://www.gov.uk/get-information-about-property-and-land/copies-of-deeds We have checked and she is registered, as were we. 20 August 2020, Will do. Comment by posted on Property Notification - Logan Systems AdamH AdamH Diana C 22 August 2019. Ben Jones I bought a converted barn in 2014 and in 2015 I became aware of easements affecting my property which the sellers were also not aware about when they bought the land from the farmer in 2004. Sam Marion - I am sorry to hear of your loss. posted on lauren jones Comment by Jonny D 06 September 2019. The owner would show as the registered proprietor in the B Proprietorship register, Comment by posted on I was hesitant to provide this information as I thought it was a confidential document but they advised they would remove my property from the market if I did not provide this. (Lenders are often reluctant to lend while there is a mismatch), Ian A Glen - wait time is around 4/5 weeks before being processed. Comment by AdamH 21 March 2019. Comment by I am really disappointed as I want to assure the new owner what rights they have about the alleyway. 03 December 2019. If it wasnt we didnt get the application. 17 September 2018. It must have been summarised from something originally? Also, in the Form OC2, there is a section for documents referred to in the title register and those not. I agree that it is more likely for the deeds to be held by a solicitor or conveyancer. The Register of Deeds office is located in the Alexander County Services Center near Adams Funeral Home and the intersection of Highway 16 South and West Main Avenue. As such you have not shared anything which is confidential it seems, Comment by posted on any certificate relating to stamp duty land tax (SDLT) 16 April 2019, Hi Mandy, Yes we decided to proceed but requested a discount for the potential issues we may face if we decide to sell. posted on I'd suggest talking this through with your solicitor, Comment by Now imagine that couple separate years later and it's discovered that your register is incorrect. 22 November 2019. But in my experience that is very rare but your solicitor will have far more experience of how necessary such an approach would be here. AdamH But I have a follow up question, which is what is the nature of that other evidence? 15 July 2020. hi. Confused.com, Comment by It has now been over 10 years, can we upgrade to title absolute? 01 March 2019. Hi, My mother is selling her house but has lost the deeds. Covenant/landlord consents c) The public lost out as they trusted these institutions at the time, only to find out that in 30 years time problems may occur. But, I just need to make sure that front driveway is entirely belonging to the ground floor only before I make a front driveway application and paying for the groundwork. 1 Apply. Comment by Glenn 02 May 2018. AdamH Can i sell the house without the deeds myself? posted on posted on posted on You'd need to apply by post on form OC2 and a fee of 7 will be payable. If not then check with your solicitor as to options and next steps, Comment by Comment by I also hold ALL of the historic deeds relating to the properties (all 7) dating back to Victorian times, as they were originally sold in one transaction to my family. My reading of that would be that it can't be both and the devil is always in the detail. Comment by Hi, I have a title to a piece of land, received from Land Registry a few years ago. Julia E As a final mark of desperation yesterday I sent my solicitor an Email to my solicitor which said; We do not hold original deeds and documents and in the case of your flat we would have the register, title plan and copy lease and together they are the 'deeds'. The extract has, Comment by When you bought for example the same issue will have arisen. The deeds show a charge still against the mortgage company. This database of documents is not a substitute for the advice of an attorney. I've gone onto land registry and there are 2 title deeds for our property- one for leasehold and one for freehold. posted on 22 January 2019, Katharine - if you complete our online contact form with the specific details then we can check on what records we hold and advise you how to apply for copies as appropriate https://help.landregistry.gov.uk/app/contactus_general/?utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=govuk&utm_campaign=death_contact_page_to_contact_form&utm_content=web_page, Comment by 11 March 2018. 19 February 2020. 23 February 2018. We have a backlog of this type of work so it won't be considered for a few months yet. I have checked with both. posted on They may be asking for evidence that that your parents held an account with them / deposited the deeds? An idiot's guide is impossible for such scenarios but by separating out the chain of representation first and then dealing with the registration should enable you to complete the legal and registration requirements. I have applied for two documents this week, on different properties, which are stated as copy filed but then they are no longer available! If you still haven't been able to get in contact and if you're happy to give the title number, we'll check the position. Click here to acknowledge this disclaimer and enter the site . posted on posted on I purchased a business premises in 1985, however the solicitor which was holding the title deeds has destroyed them, saying they are not needed as it is registered with the Land Registry. posted on 22 October 2019, Adrian - you have a choice in that the legal owner transfers it or you claim ownership and register it https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/adverse-possession-of-1-unregistered-land-and-2-registered-land posted on Their land is old railway sidings so assume that is what solicitor is relating to? I am learning about how the Land Registry is set up to handle customer enquiries, those from the general public, not from professional bodies. Comment by I mentioned mortgage companies because I wanted to present all the options available to somebody trying to track down their deeds. AdamH AdamH Comment by posted on ianflowers Popularity:#6 of 100 Recorders Of Deeds in North Carolina#135 in Recorders Of Deeds. posted on Before I worked here, I wondered if HM Land Registry was full of clerical staff pushing piles of paperwork around, likea scene fromTerry Gilliams Brazil. It is amazing! AdamH But if the developer came along and said wed got it wrong or get off our land then you may not be the legal owner. 22 May 2019. We are still not the legal owners of the property over twelve months later and now we want to sell the property and move and we are unable to do so. JohnnyW Non-standard documents: $25.00 in addition to recording fees for documents that Comment by Have a look at our PG 40 supplements 3 and 5 for guidance https://www.gov.uk/topic/land-registration/practice-guides, Comment by She may also wish to seek legal advice if she believes the neighbour has acted fraudulently/illegally, Comment by posted on posted on The property is registered with the Land registry in my name, so theoretically the missing deeds should not be an issue. Sandra 20 February 2018. 17 February 2020, Thanks I already searched. Your parents can remove their charge using forms DS2 and DS1. AdamH I assume from your comments that you are trying to add a right of way that has not been specifically referred to in the Conveyance, Comment by Change of Address Form. Comment by Melanie Dayal I'm trying to sell a property which was owned by my late father. You should have an official copy bought for this type of use. Comment by Comment by Comment by Hi hoping you can help with my inquiry. Thank you so much for your prompt response on this matter. posted on Thanks for your speedy reply Adam. 01 June 2018. We then obtained planning permission and built our property on the land in 1981/82 which we have lived in ever since (37 years). I am in the process of selling my house and the footpath outside my house is not on my title deeds and is not owned by the council, it is owned by the parties that bought he original freehold 60/60 years ago. posted on posted on Neil - you'll need an up to date Land Charges search so anything 'cleared' is most likely not needed as we would be looking at the most recent result. However if there is no urgency such as an onward sale then please bear with us and wait to hear from your conveyancer again. sue How can we obtain the original? So the real Q is we know we dont own it based on the TP1 but theyve registered it to us. Which one of them is correct please? Comment by We've tracked down the original solicitor who has admitted liability but no longer has original papers due to the length of time. posted on ianflowers As stated no mortgage outstanding - all paid off 5 years ago. Court appearance for Catawba County Register of Deeds on embezzlement Why I am being asked to pay 59 plus vat for what is rightfully mine ? 14 July 2020, Glenn - you will need to trace them and if dead identify their executor/beneficiaries as appropriate. posted on Comment by 16 April 2019. 28 August 2020, Sharon - if theyve applied to remove it then they need to request expedition also https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-impact-on-hm-land-registrys-services#expedite-an-application, Comment by 27 August 2020, I was hoping you could give me some advice on an issue with a leasehold property I am currently purchasing. posted on TahirH - no. Confused? 01 February 2019. The Register of Deeds serves as custodian and manager of a large number of Public Records that exist primarily to enable the owner of an interest in property to give public notice of that ownership. 27 October 2019. If you want to see ascanned copyof the deeds that we have on file,start bysearching our property informationand finding your propertys title number. 20 March 2019. Jordan If you have requested register documents that are not referred to as 'filed' in the register, then these may be held in paper format and consequently there might be a short delay due to us needing to call for paper files. posted on Comment by posted on 07 March 2018, Jason - as the article explains if the property is registered then the deeds are not needed to prove her ownership. Comment by I'll pick that up and email you again with a bit more specific insight into what, in my experience, may have happened re. Comment by Well, it is "nice to have" and I want it. sam 08 June 2020. AdamH That does make sense although I dont remember ever being asked to check this and unfortunately it isnt something I ever would have thought to check myself. Please see our general guidance on GOV.UK - https://www.gov.uk/registering-land-or-property-with-land-registry/register-for-the-first-time . The reason I'd like a copy urgently is that I wish to extend my lease which is now under 70 years, and my lease extension surveyor has said that he needs a copy of the lease. posted on A google plan or aerial imagery will show you what's on the ground but that does not always match what is registered/owned for example. All Rights Reserved. Its legal advice you now need re any claim being a legal one before considering whether it can then be registered, Comment by As the Title deeds do not carry signatures does this lessen their value? posted on Zoning Contact List. This should be sent to HM Land Registry Citizen Centre, PO Box 74, Gloucester GL14 9BB. Thanks Adam. It seems that both we and they had forgotten this. posted on 04 February 2019. Gary When it is submitted the conveyancer should lodge evidence of the confirmed purchase and ask us to expedite the process. Michele Trewhella My solicitor insists they don't own the property just the ground rent. Ultimately any resolution will come from you and your neighbour agreeing a way forward here as whilst the respective Transfers offer some help in understanding what was applied at the time, what you each want to do now is as relevant, Comment by There are benefits to registration but an application of this nature would be voluntary and so we cannot advise or direct you on how to proceed. posted on He is asking to be released form this, but supplying no details. Will i still be able to get the deeds or will they have been destroyed as not claimed? 09 December 2020. H I'm very worried that the plan doesn't outline what the title register says and it could cause right of way issues. Is my solicitor being overzealous? 10 September 2018, Diane - I don;t recall that we advised lenders that 'the deeds were no longer needed'. When a lease is granted each party has an original and a counterpart, each executed by the other. Ty in advance x, Comment by Neil - its rare that we need everything but what you do send does need to be listed on form DL. posted on The official copy of register of title referrers to rights granted and rights reserved by a transfer dated 10/4/2003 in section A - Property Register. This varies according the mortgage lender and perhaps historically, it was more common for the amount to be entered. 05 November 2019. posted on If so the only way to right that sistuaiton is to find it or a certified copy. posted on The online service does provide an example of the title plan for example so you can see what information you are buying. 2) *** I purchased a Share of Freehold Ground Floor Flat that includes rear private garden and front driveway. Comment by Comment by Due to timescales we are needing to complete before 8th November, I have been told that they have submitted an expedited application. Hello Adam and many thanks for your helpful information here. The Parcel ID links to the Parcel Report. 08 January 2019. On what basis HMLR made an entry for these easements and rights against our title and can the entry be the note of its existence on the title register? posted on 6 Downloaded the title deeds and title plan Is Is a joke Just an OS map with a red pen run around my property Even the land registry Gov states they are not copies waste of money .I got a better plan myself just by googling no cost. I'm confusedcan you help explain what the position is please? posted on Is there a chance it could be rejected? posted on Any legal transfer of the title, albeit unregistered, should result in absolute title providing the paper title is intact, Comment by I'd also like to say how informative and helpful all of the replies on here are. posted on Is this the confirmation? posted on Comment by Surely as the property has a title number this proves ownership of the house? Comment by Peter - I'm replying as Adam is unavailable. Enter credit card information for secure processing. I have also checked with a property solicitor who commented that the paper deeds are largely only to confirm restrictive covenants or access. Please note that our website pages will differ from those of commercial organisations by having 'gov.uk' in the web address. It is a decision for the parties involved, but there are benefits of voluntary registration one of which is that once registered, the deeds do not have to be produced on any sale and so it is of less importance if they are lost or stolen. Both properties are resisted with Land Registry. posted on June Emma - there is a registration fee of 40 plus an inspection (survey/site visit) fee of 90. The landlord ex3cutes one and the tenant the other. 03 March 2020. If the other party has a decent copy/counterpart then that should be submitted. So it reads as if you are starting again and the only option is to approach matters based on your own knowledge and the fact that presumably, the leaseholder has not been in touch, is not occupying the property etc etc but you must rely on your legal advice here. Comment by 12 June 2020, Me and my Husband have recently remortgage with a new lender and the solicitor who has been acting on our behalf (who seems to be doing everything they possibly can to bump our bill up) has found that the deeds are not in my husbands full name but only part of his name and wants us to pay and have the name changed, is this necessary ? AdamH posted on 09 January 2020, Alistair - we are not directly involved in the pre-completion issues so very much a Q still for your lender and the solicitor. Rhys - postal order is the alternative to a cheque. We can certainly get letters from Parish Councillors. Jeff - I see you have also emailed us so I will allow the support team to respond. My solicitor is saying all they actually own is the ground rent and not the actual property. I also agree that if you have your paper deeds, you should keep them to be able to check any additional information. Enquired with HSBC (lender) and solicitor but could not advise me at all. 21 November 2019. Comment by I can't work out what the difference is between this and form HC1. She sent a copy of the land registry and I could see where this was. posted on Rachael We are now trying to sell our house and are currently in a chain. Comment by Liz - if the property is registered then that confirms the ownership. Catawba County Recorder of Deeds What on earth should I do with them? 26 October 2020, Comment by Louise These were issued by us and in effect were a copy of the registered details we held. Jeffrey Whilst that might be the bank I suspect it may well be your Uncle. Ian Moore Excellent! I am trying to trace the ownership trail of a property, what is the best approach? It's a difficult situation, but ultimately if the sellers are not willing to investigate this further then it will be for parties involved to decide whether / how to proceed. Comment by Comment by posted on posted on 6. Details: I am in the process of buying a leasehold flat. The Register of Deeds has been updated with a new Parcel Report formated to a .pdf with county logo on the header. The original lease 14 February 2020, Thanks for your response.
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